Comments on: Just back from The Private Dentistry Awards http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/ BKH Barrow Kwong Hing | Chris Barrow & Al Kwong Hing in UK Dentistry | Dental Practice Wed, 16 May 2012 08:30:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Lynne goff http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-76503 Lynne goff Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:38:55 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-76503 I think idh should branch more heavily into private dentistry, since James Hull have clearly lost the it, and lost confidence from the dental proffesion. I know idh are doing great in NHS, but since James Hull is a company that many feel are trash, idh could fill a hole in the Market, and bring private dentistry back as a contender in corporate dentistry. James hul would never have been respected while ever non dentists were running it. I think James hull associates company has brought shame on our proffession!! I think idh should branch more heavily into private dentistry, since James Hull have clearly lost the it, and lost confidence from the dental proffesion.
I know idh are doing great in NHS, but since James Hull is a company that many feel are trash, idh could fill a hole in the Market, and bring private dentistry back as a contender in corporate dentistry. James hul would never have been respected while ever non dentists were running it. I think James hull associates company has brought shame on our proffession!!

]]> By: Andy endo http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-76444 Andy endo Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:39:25 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-76444 Looks like someone has lost slot of money. Good to see it's not their associates for a change. I think thus company should be banned from dentistry altogether. All I here is bad things about them. Doesn't surprise 'me any of these companies have gone into administration, yet Robin Pugh is still the CEO of James hull. He should be treat like dentists who behave disgracefully, yet the GDC will probably do nothing. No wonder lots of people dont enjoy working for them!!! Looks like someone has lost slot of money. Good to see it’s not their associates for a change. I think thus company should be banned from dentistry altogether. All I here is bad things about them. Doesn’t surprise ‘me any of these companies have gone into administration, yet Robin Pugh is still the CEO of James hull. He should be treat like dentists who behave disgracefully, yet the GDC will probably do nothing.
No wonder lots of people dont enjoy working for them!!!

]]> By: jcook http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-75846 jcook Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:38:23 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-75846 THE JAMES HULL GROUP LIMITED NOTES T0 THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS Year ended 30 April 2010 14. POST BALANCE SHEET EVENTS l) On Monday 13 December 2010 the ultimate controlling party, Hutton Collins Capital Partners ll LP, consented to the restructuring of the group. 2) Specialist Dental Limited reorganised its share capital. The Ordinary shares were designated A Ordinary shares and were each subdivided into 1,000 A Ordinary shares of 0.1 pence per share. The company was also authorised to allot 99,000 B Ordinary shares of 0 l pence per share 3) £15m of mezzanine debt owed to two AXA entities convened to B Ordinary shares split between the two AXA entities (AXA Mezzanine ll S A , SlCAR (73,359 shares in exchange for £11m of debt) & MD Mezzanine S A., SICAR (25,64l shares in exchange for £3.9m of debt)) 4) J D Hull & Associates Limited agreed to transfer amounts owed by Specialist Dental Group Limited (£3.4m) and Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (£1.8m) to Specialist Dental Limited resulting in an amount owed by Specialist Dental Limited to J D Hull & Associates of £5.2m 5) Specialist Dental Holdings Limited ("SDH") and Specialist Dental Group Limited (“SDG") were placed into administration 6) SDH released and discharged Specialist Dental Limited ("SDL") and JDH Holdings Limited (“JDHH") of liabilities of £0.3m and £O.lm respectively. 7) SDG released and discharged SDL of liabilities of £101.2m 8) SDL formally notified the Administrator that it would not pursue the amounts owed to it by SDH and SDG following the transfers in (4) above. 9) Broomco (4226) Limited was incorporated. 10) The two AXA entities detailed in (3) above swapped their shares in SDL (49.9%) for shares in Broomco (4226) Limited 11) The AXA entities entered an agreement to provide additional borrowing facilities of £7m to Broomco (4226). The impact of the above transactions is to reduce the Group‘s net borrowings from £154m to £42m, there was no direct impact on tlus company. 15. ULTIMATE PARENT UNDERTAKING AND CONTROLLING PARTY At 30 April 2010 the immediate parent undertaking was Specialist Dental Limited and the ultimate parent undertaking was Specialist Dental Holdings Limited; the ultimate controlling party was Hutton Collins Capital Partners Il LP. The smallest and largest group in which the company has been consolidated is Specialist Dental Limited. On 13 December 2010 the entire share capital of Specialist Dental Limited was acquired by Broomco (4226) Limited, becoming ultimate parent undertaking, and the ultimate controlling party became AXA Private Equity. On 25 January 2011 Broomco (4226) Limited changed its name to Grosvenor l Limited. JDH HOLDINGS LIMITED NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS Year ended 30 April 2010 • ‘ 13. CONTINGENT LIABILITY The company is a member of a group banking arrangement with other members of the Specialist Dental Holdings Limited group of companies, and has given an unlimited cross guarantee on the bank overdraft and loan facilities of the group. The company has also given a debenture over the whole of its assets as security for the group banking facilities. As at 30 April 2010, the total amount outstanding in respect of these facilities was £37,259,000 (2009 - £47,875,000) 14. RELATED PARTY TRANSACTIONS The company's transactions with other businesses within the Specialist Dental Limited group are all in the normal course of business. In accordance with the exemption offered by Financial Reporting Standard 8, there is no disclosure in these financial statements of those transactions. There were no related party transactions with either Specialist Dental Holdings Limited or Specialist Dental Group Limited. 15. POST BALANCE SHEET EVENTS l) On Monday 13 December 2010 the ultimate controlling party, Hutton Collins Capital Partners ll LP, consented to the restructuring of the group. 2) Specialist Dental Limited reorganised its share capital. The Ordinary shares were designated A Ordinary shares and were each subdivided into 1,000 A Ordinary shares of 0.1 pence per share. The company was also authorised to allot 99,000 B Ordinary shares of 0 l pence per share 3) £15m of mezzanine debt owed to two AXA entities convened to B Ordinary shares split between the two AXA entities (AXA Mezzanine ll S A , SlCAR (73,359 shares in exchange for £11m of debt) & MD Mezzanine S A., SICAR (25,64l shares in exchange for £3.9m of debt)) 4) J D Hull & Associates Limited agreed to transfer amounts owed by Specialist Dental Group Limited (£3.4m) and Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (£1.8m) to Specialist Dental Limited resulting in an amount owed by Specialist Dental Limited to J D Hull & Associates of £5.2m 5) Specialist Dental Holdings Limited ("SDH") and Specialist Dental Group Limited (“SDG") were placed into administration 6) SDH released and discharged Specialist Dental Limited ("SDL") and JDH Holdings Limited (“JDHH") of liabilities of £0.3m and £O.lm respectively. 7) SDG released and discharged SDL of liabilities of £101.2m 8) SDL formally notified the Administrator that it would not pursue the amounts owed to it by SDH and SDG following the transfers in (4) above. 9) Broomco (4226) Limited was incorporated. 10) The two AXA entities detailed in (3) above swapped their shares in SDL (49.9%) for shares in Broomco (4226) Limited ll) The AXA entities entered an agreement to provide additional borrowing facilities of £7m to Broomco (4226). The impact of the above transactions is to reduce the Group‘s net borrowings from £154m to £42m THE JAMES HULL GROUP LIMITED
NOTES T0 THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
Year ended 30 April 2010
14. POST BALANCE SHEET EVENTS
l) On Monday 13 December 2010 the ultimate controlling party, Hutton Collins Capital Partners ll LP, consented to the restructuring of the group.
2) Specialist Dental Limited reorganised its share capital. The Ordinary shares were designated A
Ordinary shares and were each subdivided into 1,000 A Ordinary shares of 0.1 pence per share. The
company was also authorised to allot 99,000 B Ordinary shares of 0 l pence per share
3) £15m of mezzanine debt owed to two AXA entities convened to B Ordinary shares split between the two AXA entities (AXA Mezzanine ll S A , SlCAR (73,359 shares in exchange for £11m of debt) &
MD Mezzanine S A., SICAR (25,64l shares in exchange for £3.9m of debt))
4) J D Hull & Associates Limited agreed to transfer amounts owed by Specialist Dental Group Limited
(£3.4m) and Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (£1.8m) to Specialist Dental Limited resulting in an
amount owed by Specialist Dental Limited to J D Hull & Associates of £5.2m
5) Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (“SDH”) and Specialist Dental Group Limited (“SDG”) were placed into administration
6) SDH released and discharged Specialist Dental Limited (“SDL”) and JDH Holdings Limited (“JDHH”) of liabilities of £0.3m and £O.lm respectively.
7) SDG released and discharged SDL of liabilities of £101.2m
8) SDL formally notified the Administrator that it would not pursue the amounts owed to it by SDH and SDG following the transfers in (4) above.
9) Broomco (4226) Limited was incorporated.
10) The two AXA entities detailed in (3) above swapped their shares in SDL (49.9%) for shares in Broomco (4226) Limited
11) The AXA entities entered an agreement to provide additional borrowing facilities of £7m to Broomco (4226).
The impact of the above transactions is to reduce the Group‘s net borrowings from £154m to £42m, there was no direct impact on tlus company.
15. ULTIMATE PARENT UNDERTAKING AND CONTROLLING PARTY
At 30 April 2010 the immediate parent undertaking was Specialist Dental Limited and the ultimate parent undertaking was Specialist Dental Holdings Limited; the ultimate controlling party was Hutton Collins Capital Partners Il LP. The smallest and largest group in which the company has been consolidated is Specialist Dental Limited.
On 13 December 2010 the entire share capital of Specialist Dental Limited was acquired by Broomco (4226) Limited, becoming ultimate parent undertaking, and the ultimate controlling party became AXA Private Equity.
On 25 January 2011 Broomco (4226) Limited changed its name to Grosvenor l Limited.

JDH HOLDINGS LIMITED
NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
Year ended 30 April 2010 • ‘
13. CONTINGENT LIABILITY
The company is a member of a group banking arrangement with other members of the Specialist Dental Holdings Limited group of companies, and has given an unlimited cross guarantee on the bank overdraft and loan facilities of the group. The company has also given a debenture over the whole of its assets as security for the group banking facilities. As at 30 April 2010, the total amount outstanding in respect of these facilities was £37,259,000 (2009 – £47,875,000)
14. RELATED PARTY TRANSACTIONS
The company’s transactions with other businesses within the Specialist Dental Limited group are all in the normal course of business. In accordance with the exemption offered by Financial Reporting Standard 8, there is no disclosure in these financial statements of those transactions.
There were no related party transactions with either Specialist Dental Holdings Limited or Specialist Dental Group Limited.
15. POST BALANCE SHEET EVENTS
l) On Monday 13 December 2010 the ultimate controlling party, Hutton Collins Capital Partners ll LP, consented to the restructuring of the group.
2) Specialist Dental Limited reorganised its share capital. The Ordinary shares were designated A
Ordinary shares and were each subdivided into 1,000 A Ordinary shares of 0.1 pence per share. The
company was also authorised to allot 99,000 B Ordinary shares of 0 l pence per share
3) £15m of mezzanine debt owed to two AXA entities convened to B Ordinary shares split between the two AXA entities (AXA Mezzanine ll S A , SlCAR (73,359 shares in exchange for £11m of debt) &
MD Mezzanine S A., SICAR (25,64l shares in exchange for £3.9m of debt))
4) J D Hull & Associates Limited agreed to transfer amounts owed by Specialist Dental Group Limited
(£3.4m) and Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (£1.8m) to Specialist Dental Limited resulting in an
amount owed by Specialist Dental Limited to J D Hull & Associates of £5.2m
5) Specialist Dental Holdings Limited (“SDH”) and Specialist Dental Group Limited (“SDG”) were placed into administration
6) SDH released and discharged Specialist Dental Limited (“SDL”) and JDH Holdings Limited (“JDHH”) of liabilities of £0.3m and £O.lm respectively.
7) SDG released and discharged SDL of liabilities of £101.2m
8) SDL formally notified the Administrator that it would not pursue the amounts owed to it by SDH and SDG following the transfers in (4) above.
9) Broomco (4226) Limited was incorporated.
10) The two AXA entities detailed in (3) above swapped their shares in SDL (49.9%) for shares in Broomco (4226) Limited
ll) The AXA entities entered an agreement to provide additional borrowing facilities of £7m to Broomco (4226).
The impact of the above transactions is to reduce the Group‘s net borrowings from £154m to £42m

]]> By: andy.foresthome55 http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-55185 andy.foresthome55 Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:41:32 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-55185 the rumour is that the company is 120million in debt- and been valued at just 40 million- netting 80million debt- too much to turn around- it was a good decission to get the hatchet man in--- the clinicians have gone down to part time work in many of their practices around the country--- my prediction---- administration before xmas!! good for James that he got out last year- James WILL be back before you know it (and maybe he already is:) ) the rumour is that the company is 120million in debt- and been valued at just 40 million- netting 80million debt- too much to turn around- it was a good decission to get the hatchet man in—
the clinicians have gone down to part time work in many of their practices around the country—
my prediction—- administration before xmas!!
good for James that he got out last year- James WILL be back before you know it (and maybe he already is:) )

]]> By: heckmon 1 http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-47098 heckmon 1 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:07:04 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-47098 i used for james hull associates- they always tried ripping me off with my pay- dont bother working for them- you will always have to watch your back ! they shafted paul tipton over big style- and i heard nooone has got their full sale price of the pratice they sold to them i used for james hull associates- they always tried ripping me off with my pay-
dont bother working for them- you will always have to watch your back ! they shafted paul tipton over big style- and i heard nooone has got their full sale price of the pratice they sold to them

]]> By: Dr Teeth http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-30376 Dr Teeth Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:20:40 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-30376 Well if you ask me the company has a reputation for a huge blame culture this normally comes from the top right down so if the practices have messed up they need to look at the core of the problem which is ultimately the Directors of course!!!! sitting on their bums doing nothing but dictating their orders without a clue what the every day surgery staff are going through, and trying to run a dental business without listening to us dentists its no wonder the sites are going under. The directors need to apply for parts in desperate housewives rather than dentistry I think their characters and skill set are more suited there instead!!!! Well if you ask me the company has a reputation for a huge blame culture this normally comes from the top right down so if the practices have messed up they need to look at the core of the problem which is ultimately the Directors of course!!!! sitting on their bums doing nothing but dictating their orders without a clue what the every day surgery staff are going through, and trying to run a dental business without listening to us dentists its no wonder the sites are going under.
The directors need to apply for parts in desperate housewives rather than dentistry I think their characters and skill set are more suited there instead!!!!

]]> By: Dr Smiles http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-18248 Dr Smiles Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:49:48 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-18248 In my opinion J D Hull associates have made an absolute mess of the practices they have bought. My colleague worked for one of them, and they turned it from a thriving classy practice to a heap of junk within 6 months- and this is the story and vibe i get from all the dentists i meet who work for them. They clearly dont have a great sense on how to make a dental practice successful- maybe that is why many of the directors have gone. It sayd on the internet that the company is for sale- Who on earth would buy it- damaged goods !!! In my opinion J D Hull associates have made an absolute mess of the practices they have bought. My colleague worked for one of them, and they turned it from a thriving classy practice to a heap of junk within 6 months- and this is the story and vibe i get from all the dentists i meet who work for them. They clearly dont have a great sense on how to make a dental practice successful- maybe that is why many of the directors have gone. It sayd on the internet that the company is for sale- Who on earth would buy it- damaged goods !!!

]]> By: Dr Smiles http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-18247 Dr Smiles Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:49:31 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-18247 In my opinion J D Hull associates have made an absolute mess of the practices they have bought. My colleague worked for one of them, and they turned it from a thriving classy practice to a heap of junk within 6 months- and this is the story and vibe i get from all the dentists i meet who work for them. They clearly dont have a great sense on how to make a dental practice successful- maybe that is why many of the directors have gone. It sayd on the internet that the company is for sale- Who on earth would buy it- damaged goods run by monkeys!!! In my opinion J D Hull associates have made an absolute mess of the practices they have bought. My colleague worked for one of them, and they turned it from a thriving classy practice to a heap of junk within 6 months- and this is the story and vibe i get from all the dentists i meet who work for them. They clearly dont have a great sense on how to make a dental practice successful- maybe that is why many of the directors have gone. It sayd on the internet that the company is for sale- Who on earth would buy it- damaged goods run by monkeys!!!

]]> By: Dally K http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-17553 Dally K Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:07:08 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-17553 There was going to be a merger with James Hull and another corporate- but i doubt it will go ahead once the accounts are inspected carefully! There was going to be a merger with James Hull and another corporate- but i doubt it will go ahead once the accounts are inspected carefully!

]]> By: almo K9 http://www.bkh.co.uk/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-16277 almo K9 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.coachbarrow.com/blog/2009/11/07/just-back-from-the-private-dentistry-awards/#comment-16277 yes james hull has been sacked- article in Sunday Times today (see it online)- i personally doubt it would be just him who should be put under the spotlight for expenses/accounting- i would think there are others involved in the company - maybe he is being made a scape goat?? yes james hull has been sacked- article in Sunday Times today (see it online)- i personally doubt it would be just him who should be put under the spotlight for expenses/accounting- i would think there are others involved in the company – maybe he is being made a scape goat??

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